In this episode, the guys are joined by Genevieve Hassan, host of Celebrity Catchup: Life After That Thing I Did, to discuss daytime talk shows and Jerry Springer. Genevieve recently interviewed Jerry to separate the man from the show he hosted, and she shares some of what she learned.

They also debate the merits or lack of merits of daytime trash TV, the potentially negative effects on the guests and society.

Listen to our other convos with Genevieve